More Proof That Fundamentalists Do Not Read Their Bibles II

Tony Sig

I have been reading through much of the Prophetic books lately. I recently finished Isaiah (I know, I know…I’m pretty holy) and I was struck time and again as I read over certain passages that I had heard interpreted in various ways over the years. Now, I make no claim to be an Hebrew Bible Scholar, in fact the OT scares me half to death (you never know if it really happened, or when it happened), but I am pretty sure that 99% of the “end-times” doctrines taken from the OT fail on a basic, even “literal,” level to take the books seriously as what they are…Timely words for the community of Israel. Now perhaps we can get into a discussion on the sensus plenior of Scripture sometime (oohh, Latin. Jeremy, whatcha gonna do about it?), but at the very least one needs to let exegesis have it’s day.

That being said, I do not know how Isaiah 14.1-14 ever got used to talk about Satan falling from heaven. This is obviously talking about the real, on earth, human, King of Babylon. It is not at all talking about an “angel” or whatever. So yeah…let’s read the Bible literally and stop talking about “The Devil falling from heaven” as described in Isaiah.

Which brings us to the other passage, Ezekiel 28.1-19 Here again, the writer is focused on the King of Tyre. That is, the real, on earth, human, King of Tyre. On can easily get this by looking at the first few verses, where there is the purposeful title “Son of Man,” that is “man.” An intentional title as in the next verse you see that the king said “I am a god” The lament which is sung over the King of Tyre draws from extra-biblical Eden stories and likely other Near-eastern mythologys. Notice that there is extra material here that is not in Genesis. Though it uses mythological language, the theme is the very physical and present King. Otherwise the judgements on him for his arrogance lose any meaning and frame of reference.

So there you go, taking the Bible seriously, even “literally,” reveals that “satan” did not “fall from heaven;” at least not in the OT, perhaps at some other point we can look at Luke 10.18

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6 Comments

  1. Don’t you think that the fact that Revelation 12:9 seems to be an allusion to Is 14:12 at least gives people some grounds for assumption.

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  2. Hello Jeremy,

    I do hope my jovial nature is not lost over the internet. I figure the title is over-the-top enough to imply a bit of tongue in cheek.

    It seems to me though, that Rev 12.9, in describing the “fall” of “the dragon,” “that ancient serpent,” is using “Leviathan” imagery and has more in common with Isa. 27.1 than Isa 14.12

    Even if the allusion was there, I am a believer that both the writer(s) of Isaiah and of The Revelation are using cosmic and mythological imagery to speak about real down to earth events happening “on the ground” or which are soon to happen. And so Isaiah means it when it refers to kings and exile, destruction and return. It has no eye to a future “end-times” event(s). And, while the end of Revelation does, with powerful and moving imagery, describe the future re-creation of the world, up to that point the writer is more concerned with the potential immanent destruction of Jerusalem and the judgement on pagan Rome, the enemy of God.

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  3. No, I get the tone and have been reading for a while now. And I’m sure that you didn’t intend on discussing a particular passage in this specific entry, but Rev 12:9 specifically calls the dragon, “the devil or Satan”.
    So, I follow the Isa 27 reference. The “sea” is a great image throughout Rev, especially when the writer recognizes that there is no sea as his first observation of the new heaven/earth in ch21! Jesus quieted the sea in the gospels, but now there isn’t even a sea to have to quieten.
    Anyway, I might have to agree to disagree with your selections, sometimes there are dual fulfillments and both might reference the kings and Satan (not the first time that Isaiah does this- Isa 9). However, if you would have gone to the reference in Eze 28:13 “The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created…” as proof that Lucifer was the worship leader of heaven I would agree- a certain stretch.

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